WCL TALK

P.J. Reilly · Joined: 02 Dec 2006 Posts: 52 Location: Grand Junction, CO

Anyone have good drills for two three minute rounds?

Hair Trigger · Joined: 23 Dec 2006 Posts: 1 Location: Dallas

Punch out drills...all out non stop for 3 min.nothing fancy,nothing but straight punches and kicks...3-5 rounds,you should be dead tired,if not,you are not working hard enough.

Scott Bolinger · Joined: 25 Dec 2006 Posts: 12 Location: Nebraska

theres alot of different drills you can do, but one I do often is 1 to 10.

what you do is stand in a horse stance
do 10 sets of single punches
do 10 sets of double punches
do 10 sets of triple punches
keep going till you get up to 10 sets of 10 punches.

you want to be throwing traditional punches, you start them at the hip.
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Guy Mezger · Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Posts: 40

Scott - That's funny... you were kidding right? Because you never know. You should hear some of crazy stuff we get here at the home office.

Scott Bolinger · Joined: 25 Dec 2006 Posts: 12 Location: Nebraska

try it
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P.J. Reilly · Joined: 02 Dec 2006 Posts: 52 Location: Grand Junction, CO

The continuous punching is a good idea but the horse stance is not going to help you in a WCL match.

Scott Bolinger · Joined: 25 Dec 2006 Posts: 12 Location: Nebraska

creates tone in your upper thigh, which will also add tone to your leggs and will create more power. When I studied Chinese KickBoxing, this was one of the drills we used to do, as well as running the standard drills going through 20 or so different strikes and kicks, and going back and forth between a regular horse stance and low squat.

there's quite a few different drills a person can do, thats just one of them. If you have other drills you do, feel free to post them.
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CJefferson85 · Joined: 04 Jan 2007 Posts: 1 Location: Dallas TX

Mad Running. Cardio is the key. Not just long distance or short sprints. A good mixture of them both in the same workout helps the most. Training for a 3 round fight i run for three minutes for each minute in a round. Always on a treadmill building resistence with each passing minute. If not on a treadmill in an area with aloot of hills. Sprint up at top speed and then jog down. and dont stop your heart for a minute. stay in motion.

Scott Bolinger · Joined: 25 Dec 2006 Posts: 12 Location: Nebraska

[quote="CJefferson85"]Mad Running. Cardio is the key. Not just long distance or short sprints. A good mixture of them both in the same workout helps the most. Training for a 3 round fight i run for three minutes for each minute in a round. Always on a treadmill building resistence with each passing minute. If not on a treadmill in an area with aloot of hills. Sprint up at top speed and then jog down. and dont stop your heart for a minute. stay in motion.[/quote]

good idea, I also try to get my fighters to mix up there running a bit. Have your standered running days 3 days a week were you just jog around 2 to 3 miles, then have your sprint or stair days. A couple different sprints would be:

1) jog 400, sprint 200, jog 400, sprint 200. Do between 2 to 4 sets

2) sprint 100 , walk back and sprint 100 again, do 10 sets.

your standard jogging is allright to help endurance, but where we are in a sport that you have to have that explosive action, thats were your sprints will help out.

and there are also interval training with the jump rope, thats helpfull as well, if your needing to keep things indoors. It would be something like, 30 seconds regular speed, 30 seconds fast, 30 seconds regular speed, 30 seconds fast, 30 second break, then repeate, do 3 rounds. start of with 2 minute rounds, then work your way up to 3 minute rounds.
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skilledstreetfighter · Joined: 30 Jan 2007 Posts: 4 Location: chicago

hey scott i saw ur comments on punching drills, and i think you sound like a typical point fighting karate guy that never fought outside the dojo (and God knows i hate using the word dojo,but thats probably what you call it)and please dont think being called a point fighting karate guy is a compliment. i come from a very brutal training and real experience type of a background,so i know your punching drills are great for the dojo.but the people who visit this site r probably not looking for the advice that their little kids need.the people who visit this site r hopefully not wanting to point fight or watch that stuff,i hope people want the real deal. u r not the real deal! i know this just by the way talk(write) on this site. and u r probably a great guy, but why dont u leave the "real fighting" advice to the pros cause u aint 1 of them. i am like most people, i like a real type of fighting.although i have seen some things i dont like about WCL,its going in the right direction.to keep the progress up i hope guys like scott stop trying to pollute this league by associating with it or writing their opinions (which show their lack of fighting xperience)on what this league is or should be about. skilledstreetfighter

KRAMYKRAM · Joined: 22 Jan 2007 Posts: 21 Location: Austin TX

maybe u should have spent a little more time in skool and less time fighting because u r not a good writer.

I like a good fight as much as the next guy but I would rather learn the skills, honor and discipline in a dojo and take my chances. As far as the drills that would help in this "real thing" I think the punchout drill is a good one you can do the same with kicking combinations. We do both of these drills quite often. 10 x 3-5 min rounds with 30 sec in between rounds.

the210 · Joined: 23 Jan 2007 Posts: 140

skilledstreetfighter,

While I appreciate the fact that the hardcore martial arts that you are talking about are on another level than point sparring and the my "point sparring" black belt is not necessarily equivalent to a "hardcore" training. However, I do think point sparring has some applicability to the WCL as many of the fighters started out in point sparring. If anything, I thought a background in point sparring would hurt fighter's ability to knock people out, but it certainly has not hurt Raymond Daniels.

Scott Bolinger · Joined: 25 Dec 2006 Posts: 12 Location: Nebraska

my gym, is actually called a gym and i'm the head coach. I instruct for what ever competition my students are going for,whether it's point, countinous point, full contact kickboxing, boxing or MMA. The main thing about being a good coach is, set your base drill structure, then to break things up a bit add in some other drills. Learn, keep a open mind and add to your style. That way your students don't get bored and they continue to learn and develop into more of a technical fighter. If you guys have different styles of drills you would want to add to the list, then go ahead and add them, i'd be interested in reading up on that.
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skilledstreetfighter · Joined: 30 Jan 2007 Posts: 4 Location: chicago

i want to start off by saying that i am a martial artist of 27 years. i am 35 yrs. old. the number of years i have invested in the arts dont necessarily make me a skilled or even a good fighter.its what ive done in those years and the people i was lucky enough to associate and train with that define the type of fighter i am.this is true about all of us.this brings me to my first reply back to a few of u.i am a respectable boxer,so at the very least i can recognize a guy that knows how to box.when you see a fighter's hands below his face, or a guy throwing roundhouse punches, or a guys elbows up like chicken wings, or a guy getting punched at and not looking right at the puncher,or a guy leaning back who is being punched, or a guy standing flat footed, or a guy not moving with his feet apart, and so on... all of this probably means the person doing all this stuff doesn't know how to box yet. and we r just scatching the surface of just boxing, let alone other aspects of skilled fighting. punching in a horse stance is great to work on in your martial arts classes, but has no place in a full contact fighters gym.a good fighter should keep his basic martial arts skills sharp but he does it in those classes and not where fighters r training to compete.i mention all this because i believe a boxer has better hands than any style of the arts.they r well protected,hard hitting because of the way they develop power,and have a good fluid motion."karate " punchers USUALLY r bested by boxers in a hands only exchange. if you disagree with that ,you must be stupid.i dare any traditionalist who disagrees to find a boxer of equal size and yrs. of experience to u, and spar with hands only. when u wake up u will then agree with me. as i mentioned before, i am a retired fighter. because of recent events in my life,i will soon be able to start training seriously again. i am a knowledgable ground fighter, and kicker as well.i hope to get back into fighting shape and show what i know, not talk about it. so the best conclusion i can give to those folks who disagree with me is this.when asked in the 60's by reporters who is a better band , the beatles or the rolling stones, mick jagger said that nobody was better, we do our thing and they do theirs. skilledstreetfighter

Scott Bolinger · Joined: 25 Dec 2006 Posts: 12 Location: Nebraska

at the moment it sounds like your nothing but all talk. Unless you actually post a drill that would bennifit a fighter , than maybe i'll beleave that you have any actuall exsperience in the ring at all. Ietherwise, i'd probably just think your some goofball thats spamming up the area seeing if he could piss off people.
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