WCL TALK

lykensrule · Joined: 29 Jan 2008 Posts: 39

There is always someone that the fans love to hate. Once again I think this is part of what makes the WCL so enjoyable. I have been telling everyone I know about it.
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fighter1982 · Joined: 25 Jan 2008 Posts: 64 Location: Nebraska

my teacher is master Matt Antkowiak, and he tought me to watch a fighter in a way to beat them not watch them like you do kim as a fan.

wcllover · Joined: 21 Jan 2008 Posts: 117 Location: Oklahoma

fighter1982 i never said u fought w/the wcl. i just thought that since you said u were in his weight div. that you could fight him in his off season. But since your not licensed in the same fight style then i understand.
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fighter1982 · Joined: 25 Jan 2008 Posts: 64 Location: Nebraska

licensed? to fight in point sparring and crap? wth u don't have to be licensed for that.

wcllover · Joined: 21 Jan 2008 Posts: 117 Location: Oklahoma

what kind of licensed fighter are you?? you said you were in 178 div. is that for boxing, kickboxing, MT, MMA, etc...????????
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fighter1982 · Joined: 25 Jan 2008 Posts: 64 Location: Nebraska

well the wcl is mma, just the standup version of mma.

wcllover · Joined: 21 Jan 2008 Posts: 117 Location: Oklahoma

i think your just avoiding the question. what kind of fighter are you?? are you still an amature or are you pro?
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fighter1982 · Joined: 25 Jan 2008 Posts: 64 Location: Nebraska

o I am no avoiding it, I am kung fu

STEAMROLLER · Joined: 04 Jan 2007 Posts: 59 Location: Momence, IL

[quote="fighter1982"]licensed? to fight in point sparring and crap? wth u don't have to be licensWCL fighters are Professional fighters!

Professional fighters by definition are fighters that make a purse to compete. Most states require that a Professional fighter must be licensed to fight in their state. WCL fighters are licensed to fight in multiple states! Raymond Daniels is a Professional fighter with a WCL fight record of 12 wins and no loses. Five of his wins came by way of KO, one TKO as a result of injury.

The definition of a KO is not being unconscious. It is anytime a fighter does not get up by the end of the referees count. Also when the referee stops a fight and a fighter is still down, it is a KO. If a fighter gets up and the referee stops the bout because he can’t display the ability to walk straight, or if the fighter gets up and says he can’t continue, it is a TKO. In a multiple round fight, like Boxing or Kickboxing, if the fighter doesn’t answer the bell, it is also a TKO.

Steamroller out!
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STEAMROLLER · Joined: 04 Jan 2007 Posts: 59 Location: Momence, IL

[quote="STEAMROLLER"][quote="fighter1982"]licensed? to fight in point sparring and crap? wth u don't have to be licens

WCL fighters are Professional fighters! Professional fighters by definition are fighters that make a purse to compete. Most states require that a Professional fighter must be licensed to fight in their state. WCL fighters are licensed to fight in multiple states! Raymond Daniels is a Professional fighter with a WCL fight record of 12 wins and no loses. Five of his wins came by way of KO, one TKO as a result of injury.

The definition of a KO is not being unconscious. It is anytime a fighter does not get up by the end of the referees count. Also when the referee stops a fight and a fighter is still down, it is a KO. If a fighter gets up and the referee stops the bout because he can’t display the ability to walk straight, or if the fighter gets up and says he can’t continue, it is a TKO. In a multiple round fight, like Boxing or Kickboxing, if the fighter doesn’t answer the bell, it is also a TKO.

Steamroller out!
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fighter1982 · Joined: 25 Jan 2008 Posts: 64 Location: Nebraska

hey know it all, actually in point sparring a professonial is considered as a black belt and a under belt is a amature. also in tulsa a guy wouldnt keep fighting with daniels so they disquallifiyed him, so how is that a ko? also that hapen with one other fighter. also a tko is not considered if they get up and cant walk straight as u say thats a ko. Like when tankson fought, he was knocked out in that first fight with craig oxley, not a tko. Tankson didn't know where he was.

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jmm1 · Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:40 pm Post subject:

Steamroller is a WCL fighter, so I think he knows the rules better than you fighter1982. And yes, the definition of professional fighter had nothing to do with being a blackbelt, it means you get paid to fight.

fighter1982 · Joined: 25 Jan 2008 Posts: 64 Location: Nebraska

not in karate, take nbl (national black belt league) and ski (sport karate international) The differntence is nbl is professional with black belts and the ski is amature with underbelts. Naska and iska are similar. so in point fighting and continous sparring, you don't have to be licened to fight. I know in full contact you do and actually u have to be licensed to fight in full contact even as a amuature.

lykensrule · Joined: 29 Jan 2008 Posts: 39

Fighter1982, your instructor obviously never taught you humility, or you have just chosen to close the door on it. Why don't you just step up already?
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jefflee · Joined: 25 Jan 2008 Posts: 19 Location: pensacola fla.

[quote="lykensrule"]I would imagine these fighters have to deal with all sorts of crazy emotions. I wonder if they always know who and what they are portraying? I like to see some drama because it makes it interesting but I agree with Jefflee about the attitudes not always being so tasteful. It can ruin a fighter as quickly as it can create a star.

I like to see a well composed fighter who can knock the hell out of someone, but also put on a great show without being a real cocky jerk. I have not seen Santiago act outrageous, but I did not see the clip you are referring to Jefflee...if that was said perhaps it was meant as a joke?[/quote] yeah i'm sure it was. (meant as a joke) something about her and a few other's get's under my skin. Mad

as soon as either one of them talk i hit the mute button and crank up TOOL, OR SYSTEM OF A DOWN so i don't have to hear them. Laughing

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